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	<description>This is China</description>
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		<title>By: City Sucker</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/10/03/satire-beautiful-part-of-free-speech.html#comment-3220</link>
		<dc:creator>City Sucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. It has always struck me as ironic and very amusing that China Daily's "satirical" cartoons never feature China. It probably says more about how China works than any caricature of Hu or Wen ever could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. It has always struck me as ironic and very amusing that China Daily&#8217;s &#8220;satirical&#8221; cartoons never feature China. It probably says more about how China works than any caricature of Hu or Wen ever could.</p>
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		<title>By: nanheyangrouchuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanheyangrouchuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with China is the same problem with most of the world.   Warlord/strongmen/simple fuckers in power with ultra thin skins don't like any negative comments and respond with brutal force towards those who don't tow the line.  That is the biggest difference between the West and The Rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with China is the same problem with most of the world.   Warlord/strongmen/simple fuckers in power with ultra thin skins don&#8217;t like any negative comments and respond with brutal force towards those who don&#8217;t tow the line.  That is the biggest difference between the West and The Rest.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryland</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/10/03/satire-beautiful-part-of-free-speech.html#comment-3198</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's pretty interesting reading the history of satire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire). I didn't know Huckleberry Finn was meant to be a satire, although i'm not sure I ever read it anyway. And daylight savings time was someone's satirical joke before then someone seriously proposed it.

BTW I found this odd in the Wikipedia article about Satire:

"Al Capp's satirical comic strip Li'l Abner was censored in September of 1947. The controversy, as reported in Time, centered around Capp's portrayal of the US Senate. Said Edward Leech of Scripps-Howard, "We don't think it is good editing or sound citizenship to picture the Senate as an assemblage of freaks and crooks... boobs and undesirables." Walt Kelly's Pogo was likewise censored in 1952 over his overt satire of Senator Joe McCarthy, caricatured in his comic strip as "Simple J. Malarky"."

What the hell happened to the 1st amendment?

I want answers.

Okay, need to get back to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty interesting reading the history of satire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire). I didn&#8217;t know Huckleberry Finn was meant to be a satire, although i&#8217;m not sure I ever read it anyway. And daylight savings time was someone&#8217;s satirical joke before then someone seriously proposed it.</p>
<p>BTW I found this odd in the Wikipedia article about Satire:</p>
<p>&#8220;Al Capp&#8217;s satirical comic strip Li&#8217;l Abner was censored in September of 1947. The controversy, as reported in Time, centered around Capp&#8217;s portrayal of the US Senate. Said Edward Leech of Scripps-Howard, &#8220;We don&#8217;t think it is good editing or sound citizenship to picture the Senate as an assemblage of freaks and crooks&#8230; boobs and undesirables.&#8221; Walt Kelly&#8217;s Pogo was likewise censored in 1952 over his overt satire of Senator Joe McCarthy, caricatured in his comic strip as &#8220;Simple J. Malarky&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>What the hell happened to the 1st amendment?</p>
<p>I want answers.</p>
<p>Okay, need to get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taiwan has the same history and it had no problem changing. Also Korea and Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taiwan has the same history and it had no problem changing. Also Korea and Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Chinese citizen, I wholeheatedly agree with you. I am always amazed about what west paper and tv can say about the politicians publicly. But I do feel the issue is not just that  China is an autocratic country, but our thousand years of tradition that emperor and the officials (good ones) are worshiped as the parents of the ordinary people, and it is difficult to treat them using a satired way publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Chinese citizen, I wholeheatedly agree with you. I am always amazed about what west paper and tv can say about the politicians publicly. But I do feel the issue is not just that  China is an autocratic country, but our thousand years of tradition that emperor and the officials (good ones) are worshiped as the parents of the ordinary people, and it is difficult to treat them using a satired way publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Josh,

Welcome back to Beijing

2s of web seaching, more than enough examples of manipulated media in one link:

http://www.newswatch.org/Media_coverups.htm

Give me more time and I'm sure i can find enough to fill a book.

Jeb Bush tampered with the voting rolls removing valid voters from one list and adding fellons on another, by about 50,000 voters. Front page news, except the problem was it was front page news everywhere except America. The margin GWB won by was about 260 votes in Florida (after the supreme court illegally and unconstitutionally stopped the recount). Really really makes you wonder. This was the kind of thing I thought I would only see happen in certain 3rd world African countries, but this election rigging is something that happened in the US. More than a recount was needed, clearly a re-vote. The price of democracy is surely worth the cost of holding a 2nd election in a state? Basically everything about it was criminal, the electoral roll rigging, the court decision, the media cover-up. And this is the shinning example of how wonderful and open and great the US system is? I'm obviously not drinking from the same koolaide.

I guess in these days of terrorism, even in open societies a president can order secret and warrantless wiretaps. You see its all a conspiracy, the judge that gives the warrant might tip off the terrorists, so to keep the wiretap secret so the terrorists don't know we are on to them (sssshh, don't tell the terrorists we can secretly wiretap them and its no use to bribe the judges), the wiretaps need to be warrantless.... pleeese. The implication is that judges are traitors and are acting with the terrorists? But, okay, given the number of people on the terrorist watchlist, that doesn't seem so far fetched... "enemy combatant" .

The secret no-fly terrorist watch list apparently now has over 1,000,000 names on it (according to wikipedia), apparently it previously had Cat Stevens, Nelson Mandela and Ted Kennedy! How are they coming up with this list of terrorists? That's probably secret too. I think I'm beginning to understand what a free and open society looks like. It's better than living in communism... damn where is McCarthy when you need him?

The current election is a pretty good circus for keeping everyone distracted and entertained. The cases of parody only make fun of particular people, not really parody of the ideas or decent in terms of really questioning the war or particular policies, it's dangerous when you go there because you get labeled as unpatriotic, but for me, thats okay because i'm not American.

Take the case of the Dixie chicks, that is straight out of Nazi germany where they had book burning. The parallels to Germany are frightening. DHS + P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act + watch list = stasi. (PATRIOT in the name of the act is an acronym and has nothin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh,</p>
<p>Welcome back to Beijing</p>
<p>2s of web seaching, more than enough examples of manipulated media in one link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newswatch.org/Media_coverups.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newswatch.org/Media_coverups.htm</a></p>
<p>Give me more time and I&#8217;m sure i can find enough to fill a book.</p>
<p>Jeb Bush tampered with the voting rolls removing valid voters from one list and adding fellons on another, by about 50,000 voters. Front page news, except the problem was it was front page news everywhere except America. The margin GWB won by was about 260 votes in Florida (after the supreme court illegally and unconstitutionally stopped the recount). Really really makes you wonder. This was the kind of thing I thought I would only see happen in certain 3rd world African countries, but this election rigging is something that happened in the US. More than a recount was needed, clearly a re-vote. The price of democracy is surely worth the cost of holding a 2nd election in a state? Basically everything about it was criminal, the electoral roll rigging, the court decision, the media cover-up. And this is the shinning example of how wonderful and open and great the US system is? I&#8217;m obviously not drinking from the same koolaide.</p>
<p>I guess in these days of terrorism, even in open societies a president can order secret and warrantless wiretaps. You see its all a conspiracy, the judge that gives the warrant might tip off the terrorists, so to keep the wiretap secret so the terrorists don&#8217;t know we are on to them (sssshh, don&#8217;t tell the terrorists we can secretly wiretap them and its no use to bribe the judges), the wiretaps need to be warrantless&#8230;. pleeese. The implication is that judges are traitors and are acting with the terrorists? But, okay, given the number of people on the terrorist watchlist, that doesn&#8217;t seem so far fetched&#8230; &#8220;enemy combatant&#8221; .</p>
<p>The secret no-fly terrorist watch list apparently now has over 1,000,000 names on it (according to wikipedia), apparently it previously had Cat Stevens, Nelson Mandela and Ted Kennedy! How are they coming up with this list of terrorists? That&#8217;s probably secret too. I think I&#8217;m beginning to understand what a free and open society looks like. It&#8217;s better than living in communism&#8230; damn where is McCarthy when you need him?</p>
<p>The current election is a pretty good circus for keeping everyone distracted and entertained. The cases of parody only make fun of particular people, not really parody of the ideas or decent in terms of really questioning the war or particular policies, it&#8217;s dangerous when you go there because you get labeled as unpatriotic, but for me, thats okay because i&#8217;m not American.</p>
<p>Take the case of the Dixie chicks, that is straight out of Nazi germany where they had book burning. The parallels to Germany are frightening. DHS + P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act + watch list = stasi. (PATRIOT in the name of the act is an acronym and has nothin</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I think.</p>
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		<title>By: 克莱夫</title>
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		<dc:creator>克莱夫</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I like about this blog - lots of zany items of no great importance to anyone in particular plus some searching articles about things that really matter.  The 2% of freedom which makes the difference between east and west is one of the things I treasure most about my own country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I like about this blog - lots of zany items of no great importance to anyone in particular plus some searching articles about things that really matter.  The 2% of freedom which makes the difference between east and west is one of the things I treasure most about my own country.</p>
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