Comments on: Palin Pick Not About Good Governance http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html This is China Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:34:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Josh http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3119 Josh Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:21:32 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3119 At Elana: The Palin pick ended the Obama news cycle, but not the convention bounce. <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Five separate polls</a> came out Tuesday showing Obama with a 6-9 point lead, much more than a week ago: If this pick represented McCain so well, then why does every say that he really wanted Lieberman but tested the pick and discovered the convention would revolt? <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Article here.</a> At Elana:

The Palin pick ended the Obama news cycle, but not the convention bounce. Five separate polls came out Tuesday showing Obama with a 6-9 point lead, much more than a week ago:

If this pick represented McCain so well, then why does every say that he really wanted Lieberman but tested the pick and discovered the convention would revolt? Article here.

]]> By: Josh http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3118 Josh Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:16:51 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3118 @Dan Let's just say it's not hard to find an old, white poltician. Furthermore, we all know that he hasn't been from PA or Scranton since he was 10, so that's just spinning his history. If they wanted Pennsylvania (which is a lock anyway) they would have gone with Ed Rendell, who happens to be old, white, allegedly clue collar and from PA. @Dan

Let’s just say it’s not hard to find an old, white poltician. Furthermore, we all know that he hasn’t been from PA or Scranton since he was 10, so that’s just spinning his history. If they wanted Pennsylvania (which is a lock anyway) they would have gone with Ed Rendell, who happens to be old, white, allegedly clue collar and from PA.

]]> By: Elana http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3113 Elana Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:37:12 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3113 The pick is completely fascinating, if nothing else. (I mean, look at how much attention WE'RE giving it! Did Biden get this much attention? I'd say not) It's true that McCain stole the DNC bounce in several news cycles and continues to do so even during the RNC, the only thing upstaging it is Hurricane Gustav. So the timing and the explosiveness of the decision are brililantly executed from a political standpoint. As for the woman herself, Palin has yet to prove that she's worthy. I saw a couple of her speeches on TV recently and she presents herself well. I do agree that, as her personal story unfolds, voters in middle America are likely to feel like they can relate to her. And, sadly, I have heard that some women are gravitating to her because she's a woman while others are totally offended. In my opinion, this pick allows McCain to run as himself rather than pandering to the right, which he doesn't like to do. She will end up taking care of some of that. I certainly have extremely strong doubts about her capabilities and experience. As for the video about Hillary, McCain would have run that ad regardless of whether or not he had picked a woman as his own running mate. He's been running ads that have John Edwards saying stuff about Obama and probably Biden, too. That's just a tactic to split the party and undermine the credibility in unity. It just so happens that Hillary is a woman. I think it's a partial stretch to say that that particular ad was aimed at the gender issue. The pick is completely fascinating, if nothing else. (I mean, look at how much attention WE’RE giving it! Did Biden get this much attention? I’d say not)

It’s true that McCain stole the DNC bounce in several news cycles and continues to do so even during the RNC, the only thing upstaging it is Hurricane Gustav. So the timing and the explosiveness of the decision are brililantly executed from a political standpoint.

As for the woman herself, Palin has yet to prove that she’s worthy. I saw a couple of her speeches on TV recently and she presents herself well. I do agree that, as her personal story unfolds, voters in middle America are likely to feel like they can relate to her. And, sadly, I have heard that some women are gravitating to her because she’s a woman while others are totally offended.

In my opinion, this pick allows McCain to run as himself rather than pandering to the right, which he doesn’t like to do. She will end up taking care of some of that. I certainly have extremely strong doubts about her capabilities and experience.

As for the video about Hillary, McCain would have run that ad regardless of whether or not he had picked a woman as his own running mate. He’s been running ads that have John Edwards saying stuff about Obama and probably Biden, too. That’s just a tactic to split the party and undermine the credibility in unity. It just so happens that Hillary is a woman. I think it’s a partial stretch to say that that particular ad was aimed at the gender issue.

]]> By: Dan http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3112 Dan Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:35:03 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3112 Palin does not have the experience to be President (or VP for that matter) and McCain's picking her was obviously a political move. But dude, do not be so naive/blind when it comes to Obama, who obviously picked Biden because he is 1) White, 2) Old, 3) Allegedly blue collar -- I have never understood how a lifetime politician can be blue collar, but I seem to be in the minority on this 4) from PA, 5) from Scranton... all of which add up to filling a demographic niche. Palin does not have the experience to be President (or VP for that matter) and McCain’s picking her was obviously a political move. But dude, do not be so naive/blind when it comes to Obama, who obviously picked Biden because he is 1) White, 2) Old, 3) Allegedly blue collar — I have never understood how a lifetime politician can be blue collar, but I seem to be in the minority on this 4) from PA, 5) from Scranton… all of which add up to filling a demographic niche.

]]> By: Rhys http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3110 Rhys Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:52:09 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3110 "Even her mother-in-law, Faye Palin, who said she was still thinking of voting for Senator Obama, sounded sceptical. She said: "I'm not sure whatshe brings to the ticket, other than she's a woman and a conservative." " http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24277265-5013948,00.html “Even her mother-in-law, Faye Palin, who said she was still thinking of voting for Senator Obama, sounded sceptical.

She said: “I’m not sure whatshe brings to the ticket, other than she’s a woman and a conservative.” ”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24277265-5013948,00.html

]]> By: Scott http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3109 Scott Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:06:34 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3109 I can't wait for the VP debates now. I don't care for McCain or Obama, but I like Biden and all of his politcal un-correctness, and now we have a woman in the mix who is more 'manly' than at least one of the other candidates. I can see the VP debate now with Biden behaving like Peter Griffen. Anyway, it is time for a change, and speaks change more than Palin? Regardless, we will either have the first half-black president or the first woman VP, assuming McCain can make it and the Big O can prove he is a natural-born US citizen. Great times. In all seriousness, I think she is a great pick and a good strategy for the GOP, and it has already negated the DNC 'bounce'. Thank heavens I am not in the States to see all the coverage and those stupid "I'm (insert candidate name) and I approve this message" spots. I can’t wait for the VP debates now. I don’t care for McCain or Obama, but I like Biden and all of his politcal un-correctness, and now we have a woman in the mix who is more ‘manly’ than at least one of the other candidates. I can see the VP debate now with Biden behaving like Peter Griffen. Anyway, it is time for a change, and speaks change more than Palin? Regardless, we will either have the first half-black president or the first woman VP, assuming McCain can make it and the Big O can prove he is a natural-born US citizen. Great times. In all seriousness, I think she is a great pick and a good strategy for the GOP, and it has already negated the DNC ‘bounce’. Thank heavens I am not in the States to see all the coverage and those stupid “I’m (insert candidate name) and I approve this message” spots.

]]> By: cnn http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3108 cnn Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:06:36 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3108 copy --> paste :( someone's been reading cnn a bit too much copy –> paste :(

someone’s been reading cnn a bit too much

]]> By: Josh http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3107 Josh Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:52:34 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3107 And Wedding Crashers! And Wedding Crashers!

]]> By: John Ryland http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3104 John Ryland Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:19:27 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3104 Actually I just found out that McCain is an actor on the side. He appeared in the TV series 24. I kid you not. Check this out here: http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/02/09/24-cameo-by-senator-mccain/ Actually I just found out that McCain is an actor on the side. He appeared in the TV series 24. I kid you not.

Check this out here:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/02/09/24-cameo-by-senator-mccain/

]]> By: Will Lewis http://cupofcha.com/2008/08/30/palin-pick-not-about-good-governance.html#comment-3101 Will Lewis Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:48:44 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=385#comment-3101 It is f-ing disgusting. All it shows is that the Republicans are more interested in power than in running this country. I am angry! It is f-ing disgusting. All it shows is that the Republicans are more interested in power than in running this country. I am angry!

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