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		<title>By: Chinese Employment Z Visa Application from the UK</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinese Employment Z Visa Application from the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the UK has been a real nightmare, seemingly compounded by the Olympics when things were further tightened up. The process isn&#8217;t very well documented anywhere so to try and possibly help others I thought [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the UK has been a real nightmare, seemingly compounded by the Olympics when things were further tightened up. The process isn&#8217;t very well documented anywhere so to try and possibly help others I thought [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A question of security. &#171; Chamber Of Ten Thousand Flowers</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>A question of security. &#171; Chamber Of Ten Thousand Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have no qualms and might even congratulate the government but this simply isn&#8217;t the case. This report on the Cup Of Cha weblog gives a general outline of the picture but this, this and this report from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have no qualms and might even congratulate the government but this simply isn&#8217;t the case. This report on the Cup Of Cha weblog gives a general outline of the picture but this, this and this report from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Beijing Olympics FAN! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good-bye Foreign Visitors</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Beijing Olympics FAN! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good-bye Foreign Visitors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Cha&#8217;s post Goodbye Foreign Visitors talks about how many expats feel about the new visa regulations.  Any foreigner living in China now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Cha&#8217;s post Goodbye Foreign Visitors talks about how many expats feel about the new visa regulations.  Any foreigner living in China now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well getting rid of the foreign riffraff seems to be working a little too well, if this Economist blog is anything to go by.....

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2008/06/beijings_hotels_getting_nervou.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well getting rid of the foreign riffraff seems to be working a little too well, if this Economist blog is anything to go by&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2008/06/beijings_hotels_getting_nervou.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2008/06/beijings_hotels_getting_nervou.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: nanheyangrouchuan</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>nanheyangrouchuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Imgladtheirgone

The &quot;older alpha males&quot;?  You mean those ugly, smelly, social outcasts from the west who have been driven into China&#039;s interior by smarter, fitter, much better looking younger expats.  So now you think you have a chance with China&#039;s urban females?  With China&#039;s yuppie crowds?  Alot has changed since 1985 and you are not special, you are just old.

@ any fired up Chinese nationalists:

Do the West and China favor and dump the old expats in the nearest canal, river or public toilet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Imgladtheirgone</p>
<p>The &#8220;older alpha males&#8221;?  You mean those ugly, smelly, social outcasts from the west who have been driven into China&#8217;s interior by smarter, fitter, much better looking younger expats.  So now you think you have a chance with China&#8217;s urban females?  With China&#8217;s yuppie crowds?  Alot has changed since 1985 and you are not special, you are just old.</p>
<p>@ any fired up Chinese nationalists:</p>
<p>Do the West and China favor and dump the old expats in the nearest canal, river or public toilet.</p>
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		<title>By: Imgladtheirgone</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Imgladtheirgone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nanheyangrouchuan wrote this nonsense:

&quot;The 24 and under crowd tends to be more idealistic about those pesky human rights and love to make videos of general bad Chinese behavior. Older expats tend to make more money (to spend in China), have expat jobs and stay holed up in their expat compounds, willingly oblivious to the real China.&quot;

Stated like a know-nothing under 25 year-old pup who needs an ass-whupping from the older Alpha males in the expat community...that&#039;ll put him back in his place quick enough!

That statement is one of the more peurile and baseless things I&#039;ve read on this site.

As an older expat in China who has had no difficulties renewing his residence permit for the umpteenth year just this week, I am glad all the backpackers, gapfillers, shady businessmen, Nigerian scammers, Indian drug dealers, Russian hookers, and brainwashed young middle-class just graduated Yanks are all being given their exit papers by the Chinese authorities. 

All they did was cause trouble. The crime rate will surely drop, now that the low-lives are gone.

With all the laowai parasites being kicked out, maybe the foreigners who actually work hard and contribute to China&#039;s development will finally begin to be appreciated more and rewarded commensurate to their abilities.

As it was, some dumb-ass 20 year old Liverpudlian who could barely read or write English and had no real skills could work illegally on an F or L visa and receive the same level of respect and monetary rewards, if not better, than an older highly skilled foreign expert with years of experience that actually brought value to China.

I say Good Riddance to the Scum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nanheyangrouchuan wrote this nonsense:</p>
<p>&#8220;The 24 and under crowd tends to be more idealistic about those pesky human rights and love to make videos of general bad Chinese behavior. Older expats tend to make more money (to spend in China), have expat jobs and stay holed up in their expat compounds, willingly oblivious to the real China.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stated like a know-nothing under 25 year-old pup who needs an ass-whupping from the older Alpha males in the expat community&#8230;that&#8217;ll put him back in his place quick enough!</p>
<p>That statement is one of the more peurile and baseless things I&#8217;ve read on this site.</p>
<p>As an older expat in China who has had no difficulties renewing his residence permit for the umpteenth year just this week, I am glad all the backpackers, gapfillers, shady businessmen, Nigerian scammers, Indian drug dealers, Russian hookers, and brainwashed young middle-class just graduated Yanks are all being given their exit papers by the Chinese authorities. </p>
<p>All they did was cause trouble. The crime rate will surely drop, now that the low-lives are gone.</p>
<p>With all the laowai parasites being kicked out, maybe the foreigners who actually work hard and contribute to China&#8217;s development will finally begin to be appreciated more and rewarded commensurate to their abilities.</p>
<p>As it was, some dumb-ass 20 year old Liverpudlian who could barely read or write English and had no real skills could work illegally on an F or L visa and receive the same level of respect and monetary rewards, if not better, than an older highly skilled foreign expert with years of experience that actually brought value to China.</p>
<p>I say Good Riddance to the Scum!</p>
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		<title>By: 克来夫</title>
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		<dc:creator>克来夫</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ under 25s - possibly this means there will be fewer backpackers and gapfillers &#039;working&#039; their way around the schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ under 25s &#8211; possibly this means there will be fewer backpackers and gapfillers &#8216;working&#8217; their way around the schools.</p>
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		<title>By: nanheyangrouchuan</title>
		<link>http://cupofcha.com/2008/06/20/goodbye-foreign-visitors.html/comment-page-1#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>nanheyangrouchuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 24 and under crowd tends to be more idealistic about those pesky human rights and love to make videos of general bad Chinese behavior.  Older expats tend to make more money (to spend in China), have expat jobs and stay holed up in their expat compounds, willingly oblivious to the real China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 24 and under crowd tends to be more idealistic about those pesky human rights and love to make videos of general bad Chinese behavior.  Older expats tend to make more money (to spend in China), have expat jobs and stay holed up in their expat compounds, willingly oblivious to the real China.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taiwanese with Taibaozheng can get in and out as they please, I believe, so if you already have such a zheng it&#039;s no problem, but from what I heard it&#039;s difficult to apply for a Taibaozheng right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taiwanese with Taibaozheng can get in and out as they please, I believe, so if you already have such a zheng it&#8217;s no problem, but from what I heard it&#8217;s difficult to apply for a Taibaozheng right now.</p>
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		<title>By: revi</title>
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		<dc:creator>revi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Overseas Chinese (the Hua Chiao) and the Taiwanese living in China are also having the same problems renewing their visa etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Overseas Chinese (the Hua Chiao) and the Taiwanese living in China are also having the same problems renewing their visa etc.</p>
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