Comments on: Beijing Students Told to Calm Down http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html This is China Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:44:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: cathy w http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1222 cathy w Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:27:30 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1222 The CCP if they don't want to be seen as weak in front of foreign powers, stop arresting their own citizens for voicing dissatisfaction for the gov't, stop violating human rights of their own citizens. Have guts to really clean up rampant corruption. The CCP if they don’t want to be seen as weak in front of foreign powers, stop arresting their own citizens for voicing dissatisfaction for the gov’t, stop violating human rights of their own citizens. Have guts to really clean up rampant corruption.

]]> By: cathy w http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1221 cathy w Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:14:45 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1221 Chinese gov't can really learn from Hong Kong governing system. People there can express freely for and against the gov't, on radio stations and in the press, on blogs, without being labeled "traitors" or be arrested by police. Why would China have difficulties containing protesters? Because people never had any outlets to vent out their dissatisfactions with the gov't. Now even the protests are not against the gov't, because of the lack of ways the society has to deal with this, things can easily get out of control. Chinese gov’t can really learn from Hong Kong governing system. People there can express freely for and against the gov’t, on radio stations and in the press, on blogs, without being labeled “traitors” or be arrested by police. Why would China have difficulties containing protesters? Because people never had any outlets to vent out their dissatisfactions with the gov’t. Now even the protests are not against the gov’t, because of the lack of ways the society has to deal with this, things can easily get out of control.

]]> By: cathy w http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1220 cathy w Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:05:10 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1220 The CCP risks showing weakness in front of foreign powers? That's your opinion, this stupid aged old "loosing face" thing, the way the CCP can do now to help cool people down before it goes out of control is to try to not let the protests escalate into riots(they better not do crack downs), the protesters have to remain rational, that is the very important thing. Nationalism is double edged because extreme nationalism from a mass population would only make the country become less open to the outside world. Remember The Cultural Revolution? The CCP risks showing weakness in front of foreign powers? That’s your opinion, this stupid aged old “loosing face” thing, the way the CCP can do now to help cool people down before it goes out of control is to try to not let the protests escalate into riots(they better not do crack downs), the protesters have to remain rational, that is the very important thing. Nationalism is double edged because extreme nationalism from a mass population would only make the country become less open to the outside world. Remember The Cultural Revolution?

]]> By: nanheyangrouchuan http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1219 nanheyangrouchuan Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:33:56 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1219 And now the CCP risks showing weakness in front of the foreign powers. Chinese nationalism is definitely a double edged sword. And now the CCP risks showing weakness in front of the foreign powers. Chinese nationalism is definitely a double edged sword.

]]> By: carhy w http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1217 carhy w Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:39:36 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1217 I don't agree with boycotting French goods. Every low priced item is made in China, this only hurts Chinese workers and factories, and it is just a symbolic thing no substance. This reminds me of WW2, boycotting Japanese goods, it's an old tactics, and isn't the best way to shw national pride. Should just try to do better, every single person, start respecting the fellow Chinese, no matter their backgrounds, rich or poor, because this issue with international community goes way beyond Tibet, this has to do with China's human rights records, the way the gov't treats its own people, and monitor their freedom to express displeasure with the gov't through the internet and through the press. I don’t agree with boycotting French goods. Every low priced item is made in China, this only hurts Chinese workers and factories, and it is just a symbolic thing no substance. This reminds me of WW2, boycotting Japanese goods, it’s an old tactics, and isn’t the best way to shw national pride. Should just try to do better, every single person, start respecting the fellow Chinese, no matter their backgrounds, rich or poor, because this issue with international community goes way beyond Tibet, this has to do with China’s human rights records, the way the gov’t treats its own people, and monitor their freedom to express displeasure with the gov’t through the internet and through the press.

]]> By: cathy w http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1216 cathy w Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:18:09 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1216 The Chinese officials needed to be more rational, their use of propaganda words have turned on people's nationalistic mood, which is a very dangerous sentiment if it has gone extreme. I hope this won't turn the country's open policy backward. The Chinese officials needed to be more rational, their use of propaganda words have turned on people’s nationalistic mood, which is a very dangerous sentiment if it has gone extreme. I hope this won’t turn the country’s open policy backward.

]]> By: Matthew Stinson http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/22/beijing-students-told-to-calm-down.html#comment-1212 Matthew Stinson Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:42:19 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/?p=256#comment-1212 I wonder if they'll start to tell students that if they go to protest, it'll be marked on their records and result in future punishment. They did that in 2005 and it shut down several of the student-backed protest crowds. Over the weekend the government reportedly also started pruning away many "extreme" Internet postings, but I don't see how they can stop QQ messages (I just received one that said "Carrefour Die, France Go to Die!") or text messages. I wonder if they’ll start to tell students that if they go to protest, it’ll be marked on their records and result in future punishment. They did that in 2005 and it shut down several of the student-backed protest crowds.

Over the weekend the government reportedly also started pruning away many “extreme” Internet postings, but I don’t see how they can stop QQ messages (I just received one that said “Carrefour Die, France Go to Die!”) or text messages.

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