Comments on: Why Olympic Torch Protests Matter http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html This is China Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:55:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1171 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:25:16 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1171 Bobby, there is no two same leaves in the world, maybe, like you said, my analogy is not perfect. I know, but at least one thing is the same, both of them belong to domestic affairs. Although Tibet involves ethinic problems, but they just like the ones who tried to separate the country. Thus, the government sent army. What is more, as I know, they are not all Anglo-Saxon, some from france or even Germany. I do not know wherther I am right, later, if I have time I will serch for that. but, To be continue~~~ I have to have class now, and thank you for your reply. ^^ Bobby, there is no two same leaves in the world, maybe, like you said, my analogy is not perfect. I know, but at least one thing is the same, both of them belong to domestic affairs. Although Tibet involves ethinic problems, but they just like the ones who tried to separate the country. Thus, the government sent army. What is more, as I know, they are not all Anglo-Saxon, some from france or even Germany. I do not know wherther I am right, later, if I have time I will serch for that. but, To be continue~~~ I have to have class now, and thank you for your reply. ^^

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1170 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:16:39 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1170 "With regard to your comparison with the American south, the analogy interesting, but you failed to carry it out properly. The ethnic groups were virtually the same (Anglo-Saxon). " I want to ask you, do you really understand what is CHINESE? What's more, as for the historical background including how it broke out and how it ended, every Chinese student understand, even elementary student. So, please do not teach me. “With regard to your comparison with the American south, the analogy interesting, but you failed to carry it out properly. The ethnic groups were virtually the same (Anglo-Saxon). ” I want to ask you, do you really understand what is CHINESE? What’s more, as for the historical background including how it broke out and how it ended, every Chinese student understand, even elementary student. So, please do not teach me.

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1169 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:12:45 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1169 The problem you have said belongs to the structure of social organization. You mean all of the countries in the world should have the same or similar organization is proper? Individual is different from ondividual, Country is different from country due to history and coultre and social ideology. But one thing is the same, that is, we are all human beings. We need communication and understand. We can not ask you to love us, but at least, see us from a objective stance. If you just litsten, it is not enough. The problem you have said belongs to the structure of social organization. You mean all of the countries in the world should have the same or similar organization is proper? Individual is different from ondividual, Country is different from country due to history and coultre and social ideology. But one thing is the same, that is, we are all human beings. We need communication and understand. We can not ask you to love us, but at least, see us from a objective stance. If you just litsten, it is not enough.

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1168 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:06:40 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1168 and let me tell you, Tibet and ethnic group have their own political power in China. Their people control their own people and own land. which is call autonomous region, but must admit the central government, just like HK but actually not the same like HK. They call themselves as, for example Mongols and Chinese. and let me tell you, Tibet and ethnic group have their own political power in China. Their people control their own people and own land. which is call autonomous region, but must admit the central government, just like HK but actually not the same like HK. They call themselves as, for example Mongols and Chinese.

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1167 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:00:57 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1167 "How ironic you would use the example of Northern Ireland and Scotland being British. Many people in Northern Ireland consider themselves Irish and NOT British, and there was a low level war for years there. Similarly, the Scottish HATE the English. Furthermore, Scotland has its own parliament and is in fact considered its own country." do you mean both Northern Ireland and Scotland are independent? “How ironic you would use the example of Northern Ireland and Scotland being British. Many people in Northern Ireland consider themselves Irish and NOT British, and there was a low level war for years there. Similarly, the Scottish HATE the English. Furthermore, Scotland has its own parliament and is in fact considered its own country.” do you mean both Northern Ireland and Scotland are independent?

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1166 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:59:20 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1166 Because of the mis-spelled words above, I write again. Sorry. 1. Rhys, as for your question I think I have answered very clearly. The answer is above as for the problem of Chinese media. Most of Chinese people are friendly to foreigners and respect western people before, this will be contributed to Chinese Media and government. Thus, we hope the Chinese media show the ugly faces of those Tibetan rioters and some irresponsible media and some hosts who saied bad words on Chinese people—for at least, most of Chinese people love peace and respect your advanced technologies and some good culture. Why do you attack most of innocent Chinese people? Such is your honorable western media? And your responsible western media?!! And do you confident enough to say your media never cover things?!! Why are you so confident? If you can not find the answer to your question I will write again: “In a western context, hurting feelings is the last thing on any journalist’s mind. A journalist’s job is to fearlessly seek out truth, regardless of who he or she offends - and get that truth into the public domain” yes! I agree with you!! And should I add another word? Media should be responsible not only for its own country, but for the world. When the riots which were caused by the Tibetan rioters in Paris, CCTV just reported the scene of Paris’ beauty not the scene of the ugly face of those Tibetan rioters and said to Chinese people, Paris is beautiful. Chinese media may deviate from the true function as a media, but it was responsible to the world—that is, the world need peaceful sound! What is more, Chinese media never is afraid to tell the Chinese people the truth, for every Chinese people know what has happened in Tibet from the internet. Chinese people clearly know who is right and who is wrong, but Chinese media try not to say bad words on western society, western people and western media. That is because, the world need friendship. If the Chinese media reported the riots without covering, and the Chinese people, all of the most common people will hate western society, including commodities, people, media, films, etc, everything. At last, it is better for you to learn the different mode of thoughts between Chinese and western. You know, the students in China are taught the knowledge as a subject in order to understand you westerners and establish good friendship with you. We know we are not as good as you in many social fields, but we are studying from you and utilize the good things in our own culture. Rhys, thank you for your reply. Because of the mis-spelled words above, I write again. Sorry.
1. Rhys, as for your question I think I have answered very clearly. The answer is above as for the problem of Chinese media.
Most of Chinese people are friendly to foreigners and respect western people before, this will be contributed to Chinese Media and government.
Thus, we hope the Chinese media show the ugly faces of those Tibetan rioters and some irresponsible media and some hosts who saied bad words on Chinese people—for at least, most of Chinese people love peace and respect your advanced technologies and some good culture. Why do you attack most of innocent Chinese people? Such is your honorable western media? And your responsible western media?!! And do you confident enough to say your media never cover things?!! Why are you so confident?
If you can not find the answer to your question I will write again:
“In a western context, hurting feelings is the last thing on any journalist’s mind. A journalist’s job is to fearlessly seek out truth, regardless of who he or she offends - and get that truth into the public domain” yes! I agree with you!! And should I add another word? Media should be responsible not only for its own country, but for the world. When the riots which were caused by the Tibetan rioters in Paris, CCTV just reported the scene of Paris’ beauty not the scene of the ugly face of those Tibetan rioters and said to Chinese people, Paris is beautiful. Chinese media may deviate from the true function as a media, but it was responsible to the world—that is, the world need peaceful sound! What is more, Chinese media never is afraid to tell the Chinese people the truth, for every Chinese people know what has happened in Tibet from the internet. Chinese people clearly know who is right and who is wrong, but Chinese media try not to say bad words on western society, western people and western media. That is because, the world need friendship. If the Chinese media reported the riots without covering, and the Chinese people, all of the most common people will hate western society, including commodities, people, media, films, etc, everything.
At last, it is better for you to learn the different mode of thoughts between Chinese and western. You know, the students in China are taught the knowledge as a subject in order to understand you westerners and establish good friendship with you.
We know we are not as good as you in many social fields, but we are studying from you and utilize the good things in our own culture.
Rhys, thank you for your reply.

]]> By: Bobby http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1165 Bobby Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:54:35 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1165 How ironic you would use the example of Northern Ireland and Scotland being British. Many people in Northern Ireland consider themselves Irish and NOT British, and there was a low level war for years there. Similarly, the Scottish HATE the English. Furthermore, Scotland has its own parliament and is in fact considered its own country. Ever notice that the team in the World Cup is England and not Britain? Scotland usually fails to qualify as does Northern Ireland. With regard to your comparison with the American south, the analogy interesting, but you failed to carry it out properly. The ethnic groups were virtually the same (Anglo-Saxon). The real issue was not nationalism, but policy. The south wanted slavery, and if the world had stepped in, hopefully they would have sided against that evil which is a stain on America's legacy. I might argue that the analogy has a passing similarity to the situation in Tibet, except that would state the claim too strongly and assuredly provoke an angry response. However, it was your analogy, not mine. How ironic you would use the example of Northern Ireland and Scotland being British. Many people in Northern Ireland consider themselves Irish and NOT British, and there was a low level war for years there. Similarly, the Scottish HATE the English. Furthermore, Scotland has its own parliament and is in fact considered its own country. Ever notice that the team in the World Cup is England and not Britain? Scotland usually fails to qualify as does Northern Ireland.

With regard to your comparison with the American south, the analogy interesting, but you failed to carry it out properly. The ethnic groups were virtually the same (Anglo-Saxon). The real issue was not nationalism, but policy. The south wanted slavery, and if the world had stepped in, hopefully they would have sided against that evil which is a stain on America’s legacy. I might argue that the analogy has a passing similarity to the situation in Tibet, except that would state the claim too strongly and assuredly provoke an angry response. However, it was your analogy, not mine.

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1164 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:46:56 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1164 Rhys, as for your question I think I have answered very clearly. The answer is above as for the problem of Chinese media. Most of Chinese people are friendly to forieners and respect western poeplr before, this will be contributed to Chinese Media and goverment. Thus, we hope the Chinese media show the ugly faces of those Tibetan rioters and some irresponsible media and some hosts who saied bad words on Chinese people---for at least, most of Chinese people love peace and respect your advanced tecknolege and some good culture. Why do you attact most of innocent Chinese people? Such is your honorable western media? and your responsible western media?!! and do you confident enough to say your media never cover things?!! Why are you so confident? If you can not find the answer to your question I will write again: “In a western context, hurting feelings is the last thing on any journalist’s mind. A journalist’s job is to fearlessly seek out truth, regardless of who he or she offends - and get that truth into the public domain” yes! I agree with you!! And should I add another word? Media should be responsible not only for its own country, but for the world. When the riots which were caused by the Tibetan rioters in Paris, CCTV just reported the scene of Paris’ beauty not the scene of the ugly face of those Tibetan rioters and said to Chinese people, Paris is beautiful. Chinese media may deviate from the true function as a media, but it was responsible to the world—that is, the world need peaceful sound! What is more, Chinese media never is afraid to tell the Chinese people the truth, for every Chinese people know what has happened in Tibet from the internet. Chinese people clearly know who is right and who is wrong, but Chinese media try not to say bad words on western society, western people and western media. That is because, the world need friendship. If the Chinese media reported the riots without covering, and the Chinese people, all of the most common people will hate western society, including commodities, people, media, films, etc, everything. At last, it is better for you to learn the differnt mode of thoughts between Chinese and western. You know, the students in China are taught the knowlege as a subject in order to understand you westerners and establish good friendship with you. We know we are not as good as you in many social fields, but we are studying from you and utilies the good things in our own culture. Rhys, thank you for your reply. Rhys, as for your question I think I have answered very clearly. The answer is above as for the problem of Chinese media.
Most of Chinese people are friendly to forieners and respect western poeplr before, this will be contributed to Chinese Media and goverment.
Thus, we hope the Chinese media show the ugly faces of those Tibetan rioters and some irresponsible media and some hosts who saied bad words on Chinese people—for at least, most of Chinese people love peace and respect your advanced tecknolege and some good culture. Why do you attact most of innocent Chinese people? Such is your honorable western media? and your responsible western media?!! and do you confident enough to say your media never cover things?!! Why are you so confident?
If you can not find the answer to your question I will write again:
“In a western context, hurting feelings is the last thing on any journalist’s mind. A journalist’s job is to fearlessly seek out truth, regardless of who he or she offends - and get that truth into the public domain” yes! I agree with you!! And should I add another word? Media should be responsible not only for its own country, but for the world. When the riots which were caused by the Tibetan rioters in Paris, CCTV just reported the scene of Paris’ beauty not the scene of the ugly face of those Tibetan rioters and said to Chinese people, Paris is beautiful. Chinese media may deviate from the true function as a media, but it was responsible to the world—that is, the world need peaceful sound! What is more, Chinese media never is afraid to tell the Chinese people the truth, for every Chinese people know what has happened in Tibet from the internet. Chinese people clearly know who is right and who is wrong, but Chinese media try not to say bad words on western society, western people and western media. That is because, the world need friendship. If the Chinese media reported the riots without covering, and the Chinese people, all of the most common people will hate western society, including commodities, people, media, films, etc, everything.
At last, it is better for you to learn the differnt mode of thoughts between Chinese and western. You know, the students in China are taught the knowlege as a subject in order to understand you westerners and establish good friendship with you.
We know we are not as good as you in many social fields, but we are studying from you and utilies the good things in our own culture.
Rhys, thank you for your reply.

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1163 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:30:21 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1163 “Why don’t Chinese ever say that Tibet was ruled by Mongolians?” Please respect facts! Every Chinese knows Yuan Dynasty is controlled by Mongols. And certainly, at that time we Han, and other Ethnic groups were under the control of Mongols, but we are all Chinese, brothers and sisters, they are our families. Nowadays, the native people in Inner Mongolia are working with all the people in China for a better life. Thus, Yuan Dynasty is part of Chinese history, Mongols are Chinese people, why not Tibet? By the way, do you have a clear understand of Chinese geography? Have you carefully know every province in China? How much do you know Chinese culture?!! Since then, Tibet is always part of China and goes through Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties… and until now. And let me tell you, a certain ethnic group who controlled China in history was not only Mongols!! “Once the world united against South African Apartheid, things changed. I’m not necessarily comparing the two, I’m just saying that internal affairs are not always off limits.” Why not the world united against the Southern slave states of the newly formed Confederate States of America under Jefferson Davis during the U.S.A. Civil War? Why not accuse American central government of putting down Southern people who wanted to be independent? Why not say the government sent so many army in this war? Why not say there is not human rights in America?----We know, we Chinese know, the war is justice, and clearly understand the historical background and we see this war very objectively. Let me tell you again, Tibet is part of China. To those who never come to China and know very little Chinese history guys, please, and please, go to China and go to Tibet, learn about China, not just say with your brain! Ok, you like “internal affairs”, we will learn from you some western unfriendly people, we will be ready for caring about other “internal affairs” in other countries. As I know, some problems happened in western countries are supposed to be “internal affairs” for “internal affairs are not always off limits.” “Why don’t Chinese ever say that Tibet was ruled by Mongolians?” Please respect facts! Every Chinese knows Yuan Dynasty is controlled by Mongols. And certainly, at that time we Han, and other Ethnic groups were under the control of Mongols, but we are all Chinese, brothers and sisters, they are our families. Nowadays, the native people in Inner Mongolia are working with all the people in China for a better life. Thus, Yuan Dynasty is part of Chinese history, Mongols are Chinese people, why not Tibet?
By the way, do you have a clear understand of Chinese geography? Have you carefully know every province in China? How much do you know Chinese culture?!!
Since then, Tibet is always part of China and goes through Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties… and until now.
And let me tell you, a certain ethnic group who controlled China in history was not only Mongols!!
“Once the world united against South African Apartheid, things changed. I’m not necessarily comparing the two, I’m just saying that internal affairs are not always off limits.” Why not the world united against the Southern slave states of the newly formed Confederate States of America under Jefferson Davis during the U.S.A. Civil War? Why not accuse American central government of putting down Southern people who wanted to be independent? Why not say the government sent so many army in this war? Why not say there is not human rights in America?—-We know, we Chinese know, the war is justice, and clearly understand the historical background and we see this war very objectively.
Let me tell you again, Tibet is part of China. To those who never come to China and know very little Chinese history guys, please, and please, go to China and go to Tibet, learn about China, not just say with your brain!
Ok, you like “internal affairs”, we will learn from you some western unfriendly people, we will be ready for caring about other “internal affairs” in other countries. As I know, some problems happened in western countries are supposed to be “internal affairs” for “internal affairs are not always off limits.”

]]> By: echo http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1162 echo Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:29:50 +0000 http://cupofcha.com/2008/04/13/why-olympic-torch-protests-matter.html#comment-1162 Fourth, I am afraid that, you never come to Tibet and never read any historical documents or visit any Tibet museums or see any historical evidence. Besides, I have to say you never come to China either. You should apologize for your ignorance to China and for you irresponsibility to say those things before you really understand Chinese nationality and Chinese culture! I do not know which Korea do you mean? If you mean the country which is now called South Korea or North Korea or the Chinese Korea? The first thing you should know, Beijing is not always and not only place of Chinese government in Chinese history, and actually, many different cities in China were the representation of Chinese government. There is also much evidence. Thus, please never only use the word "Beijing" to refer to China. “Tibet had the same relationship with Beijing as Korea did for years. They paid tribute, but were not ruled by Beijing. And by the way, since when was Beijing always ruled by Chinese. Weren’t many of the rulers Manchu and Mongolian? Why don’t Chinese ever say that Tibet was ruled by Mongolians?” Fortunately, you learn about a little history of China, thank you. However, you have committed another big mistake. China is not equal to Han. Let me tell you, please listen carefully. China is NOT a single Ethnic nation; in fact 56 ethnic groups make up China, including Han, Mongols, Koreans, Muslim, Tibetans, etc… and we are all united as CHINESE, in other word, China is just as Multicultural as Canada. Chinese history is like a long river, 56 ethnic groups are formed during the long Chinese history and are combined into the whole Chinese culture. In order to give you a clear picture I would like to show Chinese History Timeline: Dates Dynasty ca. 2000-1500 B.C. Xia 1700-1027 B.C. Shang 1027-771 B.C. Western Zhou 770-221 B.C. Eastern Zhou 770-476 B.C. -- Spring and Autumn period 475-221 B.C. -- Warring States period 221-207 B.C. Qin 206 B.C.-A.D. 9 Western Han A.D. 9-24 Xin (Wang Mang interregnum) A.D. 25-220 Eastern Han A.D. 220-280 Three Kingdoms 220-265 -- Wei 221-263 -- Shu 229-280 -- Wu A.D. 265-316 Western Jin A.D. 317-420 Eastern Jin A.D. 420-588 Southern and Northern Dynasties 420-588 Southern Dynasties 420-478 -- Song 479-501 -- Qi 502-556 -- Liang 557-588 -- Chen 386-588 Northern Dynasties 386-533 -- Northern Wei 534-549 -- Eastern Wei 535-557 -- Western Wei 550-577 -- Northern Qi 557-588 -- Northern Zhou A.D. 581-617 Sui A.D. 618-907 Tang A.D. 907-960 Five Dynasties 907-923 -- Later Liang 923-936 -- Later Tang 936-946 -- Later Jin 947-950 -- Later Han 951-960 -- Later Zhou A.D. 907-979 Ten Kingdoms A.D. 960-1279 Song 960-1127 -- Northern Song 1127-1279 -- Southern Song A.D. 916-1125 Liao A.D. 1038-1227 Western Xia A.D. 1115-1234 Jin A.D. 1279-1368 Yuan A.D. 1368-1644 Ming A.D. 1644-1911 Qing A.D. 1911-1949 Republic of China (in mainland China) A.D. 1949- People's Republic of China From Yuan dynasty Tibet has become a province of China. The period of Yuan dynasty is a part of Chinese history, for the ethnicity of Mongols is one member of CHINESE. No matter which ethnicity control the whole China, they are all Chinese! Just like, please allow me to take a comparison. Do you think the people in Northern Ireland or Scotland are not one member of British people? And Northern Ireland or Scotland has the opportunity to control the whole England, and united the whole country, but no matter who control the country, they are families. This is a supposition but reasonable. Fourth, I am afraid that, you never come to Tibet and never read any historical documents or visit any Tibet museums or see any historical evidence. Besides, I have to say you never come to China either. You should apologize for your ignorance to China and for you irresponsibility to say those things before you really understand Chinese nationality and Chinese culture! I do not know which Korea do you mean? If you mean the country which is now called South Korea or North Korea or the Chinese Korea? The first thing you should know, Beijing is not always and not only place of Chinese government in Chinese history, and actually, many different cities in China were the representation of Chinese government. There is also much evidence. Thus, please never only use the word “Beijing” to refer to China.

“Tibet had the same relationship with Beijing as Korea did for years. They paid tribute, but were not ruled by Beijing. And by the way, since when was Beijing always ruled by Chinese. Weren’t many of the rulers Manchu and Mongolian? Why don’t Chinese ever say that Tibet was ruled by Mongolians?” Fortunately, you learn about a little history of China, thank you. However, you have committed another big mistake. China is not equal to Han.
Let me tell you, please listen carefully. China is NOT a single Ethnic nation; in fact 56 ethnic groups make up China, including Han, Mongols, Koreans, Muslim, Tibetans, etc… and we are all united as CHINESE, in other word, China is just as Multicultural as Canada. Chinese history is like a long river, 56 ethnic groups are formed during the long Chinese history and are combined into the whole Chinese culture.
In order to give you a clear picture I would like to show Chinese History Timeline:
Dates Dynasty
ca. 2000-1500 B.C. Xia

1700-1027 B.C. Shang

1027-771 B.C. Western Zhou

770-221 B.C. Eastern Zhou
770-476 B.C. — Spring and Autumn period
475-221 B.C. — Warring States period
221-207 B.C. Qin

206 B.C.-A.D. 9 Western Han

A.D. 9-24 Xin (Wang Mang interregnum)

A.D. 25-220 Eastern Han

A.D. 220-280 Three Kingdoms
220-265 — Wei
221-263 — Shu
229-280 — Wu
A.D. 265-316 Western Jin
A.D. 317-420 Eastern Jin
A.D. 420-588 Southern and Northern Dynasties
420-588 Southern Dynasties
420-478 — Song
479-501 — Qi
502-556 — Liang
557-588 — Chen
386-588 Northern Dynasties
386-533 — Northern Wei
534-549 — Eastern Wei
535-557 — Western Wei
550-577 — Northern Qi
557-588 — Northern Zhou
A.D. 581-617 Sui

A.D. 618-907 Tang

A.D. 907-960 Five Dynasties
907-923 — Later Liang
923-936 — Later Tang
936-946 — Later Jin
947-950 — Later Han
951-960 — Later Zhou
A.D. 907-979 Ten Kingdoms
A.D. 960-1279 Song

960-1127 — Northern Song
1127-1279 — Southern Song
A.D. 916-1125 Liao
A.D. 1038-1227 Western Xia
A.D. 1115-1234 Jin
A.D. 1279-1368 Yuan

A.D. 1368-1644 Ming

A.D. 1644-1911 Qing

A.D. 1911-1949 Republic of China (in mainland China)

A.D. 1949- People’s Republic of China

From Yuan dynasty Tibet has become a province of China. The period of Yuan dynasty is a part of Chinese history, for the ethnicity of Mongols is one member of CHINESE. No matter which ethnicity control the whole China, they are all Chinese! Just like, please allow me to take a comparison. Do you think the people in Northern Ireland or Scotland are not one member of British people? And Northern Ireland or Scotland has the opportunity to control the whole England, and united the whole country, but no matter who control the country, they are families. This is a supposition but reasonable.

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